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I don't have much to add on my car these days, but i'm working on some neat stuff for other folks now- hopefully once my roof is paid for (after this job) I can start building up money to pay for my motor...

 

anyway, some pics of the 67 buick skylark buckets i'm working on right now.

Notes so far... Replacement spring assemblies have evidently gotten much better with time. Georges fit pretty darn good, and except for being a little stiffer, no issues, his cover went on w/o issue.

This customer bought all his stuff about 7 years ago from OPG.. and holy crap these springs assemblies suck. Unfortunatly he destroyed this seats originals while taking apart the seat. Hopefully since he didn't touch the passenger seat, i can re-use that seats springs. anyway, pressing on with the seat back peice next.

These have a center listing pull instead of the typical 2 outters, so i will have to do some foam trimming. Hopefully i can make it look like the factory one- nobody reproduces the foam with a center cut.

 

 



-- Edited by Ben on Thursday 12th of May 2011 11:35:02 PM

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Finished the drivers seat saturday night.

Had to cut & the seat foams for the buick seat pattern, then glue some padding & cloth over the outter bolster cuts that aren't used on these seats, then lots of shaping and stretching and in general tearing up my hands to get the covers into place and looking nice.  Seatback repop springs were worse than the bottom springs!

But, in the end, i'm really happy with how it turned out.

 



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Looks real good Ben... Nice job.

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All done. In retrospect i wish i would have trimmed a little more out of each side of the center channel i had to cut in the seat back foam for the back covers, a smoother transition would have looked better. Over all I'm really happy with how these turned out, and I learned a little more in the process.

Next up will be should be bench Seat from a 69 chevelle...



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Looks nice!

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Renamed the thread so i can just reply to this when i crank out another seat for somebody.

Anyway, I'm working on a 66 Chevelle Split bench right now. PUI covers, ACI buns.

So far so good, only hangup was finding major frame & spring damage to the drivers side seatback will require some fab & repair work & get eric to weld it back together.

 

 



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Another one out the door.

 

 



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Making me wish I would of had you do my front seat when I had it done.

Good looking stuff Ben.



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I need to drop off My rear seat, and cover. I think it's a cheapie, but I'm not to worried bout it.

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No problem, just give me some time. I'm booked out till the end of june right now with people who have their seats, covers & foam in hand & ready to drop off.
I stopped running my ad when i started telling people it would be 2 months!

its nice to bring in some extra income- but i'll hvae to take it easy- its easy to get burned out spending all your freetime working on stuff for other people.

 

hey, btw... speaking of your backseat, did you know that procar is now making rear seat covers for camaro's that match their front seat design (like yours)... you might look into it, you may be able to get a chevelle rear seat cover that would match your fornt seats. That would rock.



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No problem, just give me some time. I'm booked out till the end of june right now with people who have their seats, covers & foam in hand & ready to drop off.
I stopped running my ad when i started telling people it would be 2 months!

its nice to bring in some extra income- but i'll hvae to take it easy- its easy to get burned out spending all your freetime working on stuff for other people.


 You need to charge more!  Even though you take a long time, you do nice work and are still WAY lower cost than a shop.  Or quit your day job and do this all the time.  I can't tell if you like your day job or not... wink

ben

 

 



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You don't want to work in a upholstery shop. Really. You don't.

Ever have to scrap a 1x1 foot square of melted milk maid off the floor of a Volkswagen Rabbit? Been there, done that.

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Brettd85 wrote:
Ben wrote:

No problem, just give me some time. I'm booked out till the end of june right now with people who have their seats, covers & foam in hand & ready to drop off.
I stopped running my ad when i started telling people it would be 2 months!

its nice to bring in some extra income- but i'll hvae to take it easy- its easy to get burned out spending all your freetime working on stuff for other people.


 You need to charge more!  Even though you take a long time, you do nice work and are still WAY lower cost than a shop.  Or quit your day job and do this all the time.  I can't tell if you like your day job or not... wink

ben

 

 



-- Edited by Brettd85 on Thursday 19th of May 2011 11:35:34 AM


 

 raising my price won't keep me from burning out on it.

I enjoy my regular job, but there are other things in life to get satisfaction out of too. Its different. You've been at your job for a couple years now, give it a while and it won't be quite as rewarding anymore... I started working full time software bs stuff back in 1998.... Thats a long ass time to be doing the same "virtual" **** sitting in front of a computer. At least you guys get to design stuff then see it built in real life. Recently it has gotten more interesting as i'm trying to move up into management, so its a total different viewpoint than being a worker in the trench.

anyway, I enjoy the seat work, but its just a hobby to put some money in my pocket & an excuse to talk cars with people.

I've researched my price pretty good... and i did raise it another $20 for each seat type again a few days ago as i'm figuring out my time & costs. The way i see it i'm making about $20 / hour doing the seats including the supplies i have to provide for each seat, so thats pretty decent.

If I charge much mor- I loose the draw i have for people now. Right now i'm priced JUST cheap enough that the guy who might try it himself will say- nah, i'll let this guy do it instead. too much more and those guys say- I'll try it myself. Of course i'm sure at least half of those guys throw in the towl halfway into it like the buick seat guy, and i still get the work ;)

I just want to keep just enough business lined up to make a few hundred a month. Thats gravy, not enough for the wife to want to steal, but it adds up so i can have some big block fun 

 

 



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Ben wrote:

its nice to bring in some extra income- but i'll hvae to take it easy- its easy to get burned out spending all your freetime working on stuff for other people.


 

 Amen to that!



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FRYNTYR wrote:

Ben wrote:

its nice to bring in some extra income- but i'll hvae to take it easy- its easy to get burned out spending all your freetime working on stuff for other people.


 

 Amen to that!






Come on you loved working on my 427biggrin.gif

Thanks again.

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Here's the split bench seat I'll use in my '65 build.

I've got most of the covering and stuffing off of it now. It has two broken springs that were obviously poorly welded once prior. I'll fix that. So, Ben, here's what I figure I'll do, please correct me as needed.

Rmove all padding, material, hog rings.

Weld/repair as required.

Sandblast then paint or prime.

Now ready for covering.   ????

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Looks like its in really nice shape. Unlike the one i'm working on now that looks like it came out of the titanic.

If a spring is broken, you really cannot weld it properly, you need to section in a new spring. I have some you can have & use if you like along iwth the clips to attach them.
If its the surrounding wire, you defnitely need to section in a new wire, as it must be strong.

You can sandblast if you want, although your seats look pretty decent. Personally i'd probably just wirebrush it, and wire wheel the frame, then prep and paint, but i'm a cheapass when it comes to the stuff inside i cannot see.

If you do have it blasted. Do take the tracks off first, you will totally wreck the bearings if you get sand in them. Those can be sanded & wirebrushed to look new.

Painting the springs is a bear because all the paint goes through them if you use a rattle can, wasting all the paint, so get a can of rustoeum and a cheap brush and brush the paint on the springs, then follow it with a rattle can to get the sheetmetal frame.

Before you throw away your old covers & the old cotton/foam, be sure to remove the wires from them. THere is a big long wire that goes in the bottom of the lower cover, and several short wires that go in the upper covers.
The upper ones aren't a big deal to replace, you can cut up old metal coat hangers, but the lower one is really long so try to save it if you can.

anyway thats about it. You are obviously a do-it yourselfer, and i'm sure you'd get more satisfaction doing it yourself than just paying me to do it all, so we can work something out for the materials and some cherry coke for my time, and I'll just have you come over and we can insatall the covers together. You are doing all the time consuming hard stuff now anyway.


Take a closeup shot of the broken springs and i can give you a better idea on what we need to to do fix them.




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Stopped by my buddy's house just south of Lake Quinault this afternoon Ben.  He is doing a complete resto on a '65.  He said," I think I'm going to send my seats to a guy on the internet"   I asked if the guy's name was Ben and he couldn't remember but went in and came out with a piece of paper and told me there was no name,....."but he is in Mill Creek."

You are reachin' people!  He is definitely going to contact you when he's ready.



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loader1 wrote:

Stopped by my buddy's house just south of Lake Quinault this afternoon Ben.  He is doing a complete resto on a '65.  He said," I think I'm going to send my seats to a guy on the internet"   I asked if the guy's name was Ben and he couldn't remember but went in and came out with a piece of paper and told me there was no name,....."but he is in Mill Creek."

You are reachin' people!  He is definitely going to contact you when he's ready.


 That is way cool.

I stopped running my ad on craigslist over a month ago once i started having a waiting list of people with their supplies in hand ready to drop them off... (didn't want to have to keep telling people they'd have to wait)

Even so- in the last week i've had 3 calls from people who wrote down my info before i pulled the ad who are ready and added them to my waiting list.

I would have been ready to repost the ad again in a few weeks, but I'm back up to 4 people with stuff in hand ready as soon as i have an opening. So thats cool.

Have him call me as soon as he has the covers and stuff in hand to get on the waiting list- Looks like i'm gonna be booked out till the end of june now.

wish i had the website working when i first ran the ad, now people can go see several of the seats i've done.

www.seat-guy.com

 

 

 



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69 chevelle bucket seat backs....

i think these must have been in a flood or something. The bottom 3" or so of the seatback frame was badly rusted. Metal whittled down to the size of needles at the bottom.

I was unhappy with the way the reproduction seatback springs turnedout in the buick bucket seats, so I suggested to the owner that I repair them for him. Turns out I didn't charge him enough though. this was a lot of work. Easily 6-7 hours in repairing the two seat back peices, not counting minor repairs to the bottom springs.

Shown is my repair for the lower frame... I cut out the old rusty springs where the wrapped around the bottom and clamped in replacements. Also had to replace the old listing wires that run up the two sides, and a few other misc repairs.

anyway... After a ton of work to repair the springs, i can finnally start putting the seats back together now.

Blech. Lesson learned though- Over estimate time on repairs... It won't be an over estimate by the time you are done.



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