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- Erik -
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I've got this: www.improvedracing.com/oil-cooler-adapters/low-profile-oil-cooler-thermostat-for-ls-engines-p-209.html

I would be surprised if you could use the factory truck oil cooler lines and add that spacer block. The hardlines bolt to the side of the block. I wanted to reuse that setup, but ended up going with AN fittings and push-lok hose. I have also heard that the factory oil cooler lines are prone to leaking, but I don't know how good that information is.

I also have the SacCityCorvette improved barbell, but I didn't use the bypass.

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- Mike -
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Hmm, good info to ponder. My factory lines haven't leaked from the block side(yet) but I will have to do some measuring...given they actually offer the block and other turbo parts there may be room vs traditional header setups.

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- Mike -
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I'll plan on buying these install tools for the front and rear covers also, didn't see them at first on the website.  I'll probably get the pro ones, I like good quality. http://www.saccitycorvette.com/AlignItTools.html



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




- Mike -
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I finally decided how and where I want to configure the turbos to package them further back in the engine compartment, limit hotside piping, and leave room for the cold side piping based on how much room I'll have....it should also allow for better airflow through the engine compartment.  However, I'm pretty sure the truck manifolds won't work, which was a much cheaper option.  Attached are photos of USA made stainless steel log style headers I want to pattern after installed in a C10 and being sold on ebay but are $1,300(!). 

The photo of Corvette/Camaro manifolds or the LS3 manifolds also photo attached may work though cutting and welding a V-band on in the same plane as the head ports.

I've been looking at TIG welders lately, since I'd need to fab my downpipes also anyway and want to learn to master that process.

I also installed the empty engine block/trans case assemblies back in the car on Friday to get them off the floor and give me some satisfaction of getting back to this.  I should temp install inner and outer fenders, the accessory brackets and alternator, buy a P/S pump, starter and steering shaft/gearbox for a real space for mockup.



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Sunday 25th of March 2018 07:34:46 PM

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Have you tig welded much? I ask not to be a dick but more as insight into current skill level. I’ve tig welded quite a lot but am by no means a pro. I’ve used pretty high end machines in the past and learned on expensive, liquid cooled millers. But, I bought an Eastwood tig machine for myself a few years ago because the cost and warranty was too cheap not to try. I am really impressed with it. It does everything I’d need it to do as a moderate to heavy use hobby machine. I’ve welded steel, stainless, aluminum, cast aluminum and cast iron with it. 

Worth looking into. I got my tig, Eastwood plasma, cart and bottle for less than the headers you mentioned. Throwing it out there. 



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- Mike -
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Nope, never known anyone that owned a TIG welder and I'm not in a metal fabrication field of work, more of a metal pipe bending field of work(which a lot of people have a hard time with, seeing it/building it in their head prior to making the bends and routing).  I learned to stick weld before age 10 though and have used a MIG for a long time since(I'll be 38 in less than 2 weeks).  I don't see it as a huge hurdle, I've learned to master quite a few things in a short period of time.  I'm not new to metal fab, just never used a TIG welder and have wanted one for quite awhile.

 

I'll look into the Eastwood stuff.



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Sunday 25th of March 2018 10:34:05 PM

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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




- Mike -
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Going to try 2010-2013 LS3 manifolds, some brand new ones on eBay for a great bid price.  Very few people have used them it seems(probably because truck manifolds are plentiful and cheap(er)..usually).  I did find one setup that looks great with them.

Also bought an LS1 P/S pump and cap, and an LS1 water pump to go with my bracket setup.  Shipping will take a bit though.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




- Mike -
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I have a pair of ‘03 LM7 manifolds if you want them.

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- Mike -
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I appreciate it, but I have LQ4 manifolds already and want to try the LS3 ones. The outlet on the LS3 manifolds are at a better angle(at least from the plan I see executing)for just cutting the factory flange and welding a V-band on without modifying the angle...we shall see but it at last will move the turbos aft in the chassis.

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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




- Mike -
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The brand new 2010 - 2013 Camaro LS3 manifolds I won the bid on are on the way($129.xx including shipping)...cheap enough to try fitment and routing.

I've also settled on a welder but looking at the deals out there first.  I lean towards Miller welders but the Lincoln Square Wave TIG 200 is the best American Made welder for the money I'm looking to spend out there.  Lincoln doesn't seem to have the electrical board failure problems Miller has had in recent years.  The reviews are great, especially from independent professionals and if I have a problem I can get parts.

 

Photos from the track and on the old Narrows bridge on Friday my wife took, motivation to keep going on this project while enjoying what is already built :)



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If You wanna be able to tig all things, look at the HTP InverTIG 221. I got one, and it is solid.

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- Mike -
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I want to stay with something that can be repaired locally(and American Made) even though the reviews are good for the HTP.  If the Italian HTP unit needed repaired I'd have to pay shipping both ways to and from Illinois.

As far as weld anything, the Lincoln unit is AC/DC with pulse...it can weld anything I would need it to.  I don't need more adjustability than it has.



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'67 Chevelle -- 383ci, Jerico DR4 4 speed -- 3.19 1st gearset, Gear Vendors Overdrive/Underdrive, Strange S60 w/3.54 gears

'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




- Mike -
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I bought myself some birthday presents this year, and had a little time after work this week after re-installing the empty engine block and trans case 2 Fridays ago.  Rebuilt AC Delco LS1 water pump and P/S pump installed on the ICT Billet bracket set, and the brand new LS3 exhaust manifolds showed up the other day.

I temp installed the fenders, original steering box and linkage to check clearances.  Everything fits so far, still planning exact turbo mounting and wastegate positions.  Happy with this week's slight progress.



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- Beemer Brett - Redmond, WA

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Looking good. That is a fun project. Contemplating something like this for the 66. Those manifolds fit nice.

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- Mike -
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Thanks, it is a fun project and a challenge.  Based on what is available today vs. the past, this is a much easier task it seems to fit everything without making as many custom parts myself..  This project will likely run much longer than initially anticipated, however.

Adding some more photos showing different perspectives where the manifolds end up and clearances between the aftermarket parts installed.  There is only one thread and set of photos across the whole internet I could find on nastyz28.com with these LS3 manifolds even bolted on flipped up like this on a 2nd Gen Camaro..much less any other vehicle.  That guy didn't even end up using them, and he went single turbo with stainless headers/crossover. 

Not installed yet here is the lower driver side belt tensioner assembly...it bolts to the timing cover very low and won't be in the way of anything.



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Saturday 7th of April 2018 11:59:32 AM

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- Mike -
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Nothing lately, but will be putting the front suspension back on when we move in a few weeks.  Reviewing offers on our house today to accept one, open house was Saturday...worked our asses off for a week, me most nights until 11 p.m. New(nicer) place is in Bonney Lake(White River School District which is awesome, where I went), 23' x 35' all metal shop with high ceilings for a lift.  Also 7 houses from Grandma's(my Mother) day-watch and Lube/filter(diaper changes) service.  Awww yeah, back in the city I grew up in.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 



- Beemer Brett - Redmond, WA

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Cool! Would love to see pics of shop. Everyone is moving!



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- Mike -
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Offer accepted! Young guy maybe 22 yrs old, works for his Dad's security company as a lead w/work van. Loves the shop, wrote a nice letter, better financing, waived a paid inspection(pre-inspected last night).

I'll post new home shop photos when I have it in possession.

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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




- Jason -
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Very cool Mike!

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- Todd -
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Congratulations Mike on selling your old place and getting a new place, very cool! 



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