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- Mike -
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Checked fitment today.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 



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Neat work Mike
Well done!



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Made a little progress this week, now to test fit the engine/trans again.  I need to look up how long a 90 degree A/C fitting is....



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Thursday 13th of April 2017 05:43:16 PM

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Before my GTO fun today I test fit this again....speaking of just barely.



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Mike, will that clear when the hoses are on?



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LostNFound66 wrote:

Mike, will that clear when the hoses are on?


 I'm only concerned about the lower fitting, haven't done the research yet on fitting size...I will modify the side plate if necessary.  Currently the rearmost part of that plate is against the inner frame that is unseen...I may need to make it "V" shaped which will be simple enough.  Not going to weld it all in for good until I check fitment there.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




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Finally bought a 90 degree A/C fitting and it arrived today.  Need to do a little clearance "V" cutting and buy an acetylene bottle....going to heat and bend the new vertical piece I tacked in.  It needs about 1/4" to clear and have a little extra space for motor mount torque piece of mind.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




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Last week--Heated and pounded the crap out of the vertical side piece, sort of made it rounded in the recess I made with the grinder.  I don't have a photo of the 90* fitting clearance but it fits with enough room to spare(I do have poly engine mounts so less vibration movement)....had a couple of trials in and out.  Fully welded and smoothed some.

Today--Able to get some time in to re-clean the bare metal, looked over the original welds some more and re-did a bit more.  Painted with VHT Epoxy self priming paint.

I should move on to cleaning more of the underside rear of the car next.



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Looks nice Mike!



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Thanks, I really haven't had time for this car lately.



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Trying to get back on this a bit in the last week since fall is here...been working on the house(and will continue to) and life is just busy.  

With the GTO gone a spare garage space is nice to have back!  I don't miss that Pontiac one bit, so that's also a plus.  Doing a little metal work on this Chevy (small pin holes, fixing some factory bad body welds, etc.), attempting to get the underside of the car done and ready to be painted.  No pics but nothing special yet.

 



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 



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Notice that they still have your GTO for sale?

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Brettd85 wrote:

Notice that they still have your GTO for sale?


 I haven't looked in awhile but I figured they do still have it....they need to rebuild the heads.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




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Underside of firewall to about the rear floor pans finally painted.  More to go but some of that involves replacing some of the trunk pan.



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Figured I'd at least reply to this thread to keep it alive. Been doing research on how to read compressor maps and select a turbo size for the twins. Right now the Borg Warner S366 looks good.

I need to throw my cam specs on a national site or call someone like Li'l John who knows this stuff well and see what they think. The cam was ground wrong the first time so it had to be reground and that makes me re-think it regarding hardness depth and quality vs. a brand new dedicated designed and ground turbo cam.

Also looking at the rear end of the car realizing I need to do the Chris Alston 4-bar install replacing the leaf springs and 10 bolt before getting too far with trunk floor etc. after looking at the instructions online.  I could keep the 8.5" I bought for the rear disc brakes but want at least 33 spline axles so will probably go to a 12 bolt.  9 inch is an option but want to keep it Chevy style.



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Monday 8th of January 2018 08:33:50 PM

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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 



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Mike, bottom of car looks nice all painted! I should spend the time to do that on the 55 and my 69. Not trying to criticize and understand its the bottom of the car but what do you think about smoothing the welds on the floor pan repair? Shouldn't take too long to rough knock em down and touch up the paint.

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Brett, thank you  --- I need to do that for sure, I just knew it'd be awhile before I got back under there so wanted it coated and somewhat finished. I still have to cut through the floor pans and weld in the DSE subframe connectors in that area after all the front sheetmetal is back on and aligned. It's in no way done for good, just for now and wanted to show I finally got something done. Using VHT Roll Bar and Chassis Self Priming spray paint so no big deal to repaint it.



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Wednesday 10th of January 2018 08:07:17 PM

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I spent a long time under the 68 Camaro, scraping, scrubbing, grinding down the pan welds, making pretty. I even made that ugly 12-bolt pretty.
Had that lift at Bates and Justin helping me. A lot of work, but worth it. This is to say when under there now, I do not get dirty ;) unless it is the new leaks, etc, LOL.
Good choice to have readily-available stuff to paint the underside.



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cobaltchev67 wrote:
Brettd85 wrote:

Notice that they still have your GTO for sale?


 I haven't looked in awhile but I figured they do still have it....they need to rebuild the heads.


 Looks like they sold it, their FB post on Jan 12th shows it as 1 of 3 they sold.  If it took them 5 1/2 months as a dealer I don't feel so bad.  They lowered the price $19k last time I looked down to $27,999 after they jacked it up to $46,999 from original list $35,999.



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 




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Update on the GTO, it went to someone in Australia.

I've been doing a lot of research lately on fuel injection control systems and details, header/exhaust manifold setups; also oiling/cooling details and products available since I've had some time on my hands waiting for this baby boy.  I'm sure I'll write a novel here but it will be good info and a reminder with links.

I'm going to switch the engine electrical sensors and harnesses from a GEN III to a GEN IV so I can do it all at once without confusion or re-doing things later.  For those uninformed that includes changing from a 24x to a 58x tooth crankshaft reluctor wheel and sensor to get more timing events sent to the ECU,

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12586768

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/smp-pc552

 

A GEN IV timing cover with sensor hole which is offered for sale from ICT Billet with turbo -10AN drainback fittings and plug the factory hole on the block.  Plus new cam position sensor with a breather port.  Trick Flow makes a Dampener for the LS2 timing chain but I'm not sure if it's really necessary, more investigation needed.

http://www.ictbillet.com/ls-gen-4-twin-turbo-oil-drain-return-front-timing-chain-cover-10an.html

http://www.ictbillet.com/ls-camshaft-position-sensor-delete-port-ls1-lsx-24x-ls7-ls9-cam-swap-plug-with-port.html

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-30675600

 

Also a conversion 3 bolt camshaft gear.(I already have a new LS2 style single roller timing chain...may buy a new crank gear since they're cheap enough).

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12586481?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-chevrolet-performance&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkKPVBRDtARIsAA2CG6GTQIywYIGMlQlrFdLHeZR5Z0hwyJYtAgeu7wbol2HmmIFwdDEpkMYaAiHREALw_wcB

 

I'm not sure yet if I'll swap to the GEN IV knock sensors.  With the Holley harness system it's more tailored to ordering exactly what you need by the piece individually so harness pieces can mix and match.

 

For the oiling system Improved Racing sells a thermostatic controlled bypass valve to prevent over cooling during cold starts or even when it just gets too cool while driving(especially for the turbos).  10% will go through the cooler until the valve opens, the other 90% just circulates back to the engine.

http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-thermostats/high-flow-engine-oil-cooler-thermostat-p-212.html

 

There's also a sandwich adapter spacer ICT Billet sells that will allow me to run oil feeds to the turbos off it and still use most of the hardline factory truck oil cooler fitting assembly which tucks near the block nicely.

http://www.ictbillet.com/ls-turbo-oil-feed-line-adapter-cooler-spacer-for-ls3-camaro-supply-hose.html

 

Improved Racing also sells a custom trap door oil pan baffle for the F-body oil pan I'm using for either launches or sustained turns, which could be paramount to the life of the engine if oil stays away from the pick-up.  Kind of spendy but good insurance plus I didn't spend as much as a Canton or other aftermarket pan would've been.

http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-pan-baffles/ls1-camaro-firebird-body-racing-oil-pan-baffle-p-30.html

I may just home-port and maybe shim the factory oil pump and bypass spring but need to read up more on that and will add a pickup-up tube girdle hold down brace that utilizes both bolt holes on the pump(instead of just 1 the factory uses)

http://www.ictbillet.com/ls-billet-oil-pump-pickup-girdle-tube-pipe-hold-down-brace-support-ls1-ls3-ls2.html

SacCityCorvette makes their own billet barbell for improved filtering and oil flow as well as a bypass delete when already using an oil filter with a bypass but I'm not sure about the delete at this time.

http://www.saccitycorvette.com/Billet-BarBell.html

 

I think the Holley Dominator system is still what I am leaning towards but unsure if I want the trans controller separate if one unit or the other fails since they're packaged in the same box.  Haltech also looks interesting, albeit more expensive but they do have "LS" GEN III/IV dedicated/pre-terminated and to length plug and play harnesses.  Holley is ahead with price and select-a-piece harnesses in my mind.  I may go with a separate trans controller for space fitment and  I want to go with low impedence injectors with the newer and better style construction like an EV6 , EV14 or a Deka injector as opposed to an EV1 which the engine came with.  I'll end up around 80lb/hr. to 100 lb/hr. injectors, no decision on a brand yet.

Headers/manifolds and hot side are still undecided.  I've looked extensively and have not seen anyone else do exactly what I've done with the intercoolers in kit or pieced together form.  It makes it a challenge to build it in my head before deciding on a plan that will likely take a turn or 2 but does also make it unique.  I know that heat could be an issue and I'm not set on turbo placement yet, I don't want paint bubbling or melting but I also want things serviceable and easy to get to.

 

Diamond Pistons recently announced they will have more off the shelf options available but don't know what those are yet.  Wiseco 9.0:1 dished pistons and some better quality rods with the stock crank are what I have planned on before.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wis-k444xs



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'70 Camaro -- In the works TT 6.0L, 4L80E, ??? rear end 

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