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I’d like to start acquiring parts for my 4 speed swap. I know I can buy everything new, but just seeing if anyone has got stuff sitting they’d want to sell. Mostly looking for Stuff like pedals, pedal linkage (bell crank, z-bar, whatever you want to call it.)

My car is an auto so I need everything to swap over. I have trans, bellhousing and hurst shifter/ linkage. 

Mine is 68, so I think 68-72 parts work. 



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I have a stock GM clutch fork(I also have a Lakewood fork that didn't work quite right for me in my '67...it's 1/4" longer and hit the floor pan) and stock ball stud in good shape. I think I also may still have a spare bolt-on frame bracket...saw it awhile back, will look.

As an alternate option to the Chevy style I have the Pontiac style '68-'72 newly rebuilt block-side Z-bar pivot linkage which I kept as a spare.....you'd still need the correct 12 point shouldered bolt that goes into the block as well as the frame side z-bar and the lower push rod/adjuster block and upper rod, springs. I like the Pontiac style, it seems to work following the arc of the throw better.  I can post a photo if interested.



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Friday 20th of April 2018 10:16:19 PM

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Do you know if 65' Pontiac Lemans pedals will fit?

I think the old set of pedals from my car are still kicking around somewhere, from when I swapped transmissions the opposite way.
They should fit a 65' Chevelle, but might be to early to fit yours.

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Answered my own question.
Found my interchange book.

Book says that 67'-72' Chevelle, 67'-70' Cutlass, and 70'-72 Monte Carlo will interchange.

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Bskredsvig wrote:

I’d like to start acquiring parts for my 4 speed swap. I know I can buy everything new, but just seeing if anyone has got stuff sitting they’d want to sell. Mostly looking for Stuff like pedals, pedal linkage (bell crank, z-bar, whatever you want to call it.)

My car is an auto so I need everything to swap over. I have trans, bellhousing and hurst shifter/ linkage. 

Mine is 68, so I think 68-72 parts work. 


Don't forget the flywheel. 



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I think I’d be interested. I have a stock ball stud in the bellhousing but haven’t looked at its condition really. I’ve been told the 68 doesn’t need the frame bracket because there’s a hole or a slot or something. 

 

Yup, also need flywheel and clutch. I don’t think I’ll stick this behind the 307, so I’ll get those parts to match with the big block. 

 



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Bskredsvig wrote:

I think I’d be interested. I have a stock ball stud in the bellhousing but haven’t looked at its condition really. I’ve been told the 68 doesn’t need the frame bracket because there’s a hole or a slot or something. 

 

Yup, also need flywheel and clutch. I don’t think I’ll stick this behind the 307, so I’ll get those parts to match with the big block. 

 


 Pretty sure you still need the frame side bracket. Just make sure its squared up before you weld it! Mine is on completely wonky.

 



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- wondah whooooaman-
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Ben wrote:
Bskredsvig wrote:

I think I’d be interested. I have a stock ball stud in the bellhousing but haven’t looked at its condition really. I’ve been told the 68 doesn’t need the frame bracket because there’s a hole or a slot or something. 

 

Yup, also need flywheel and clutch. I don’t think I’ll stick this behind the 307, so I’ll get those parts to match with the big block. 

 


 Pretty sure you still need the frame side bracket. Just make sure its squared up before you weld it! Mine is on completely wonky.

 


 Mine flexes.  The next time the motor is out I'm going to fab up a bracket and have a friend weld it to the frame.



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Looking it back over, I do need the frame side bracket. I was thinking of the return spring bracket. 

 

Mike (cobalt), I am interested in what you’ve got. I’ll pm you. 



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I couldn't(didn't want to take forever trying) figure out posting the photos in my PM reply so I'm posting them here.

Some small parts in conjunction with the Pontiac Z-bar pivot...if you want to try that route. The trans yoke shown is 32 spline with counterbore for 1350 u-joints...I have not tried it on a 4 speed, probably came from an auto trans app...no caps or bolts.  I have 2 each 1350 series solid and greasable u-joints as well as the brand new pilot bushing that is tested iron-free(trouble with this in recent years).  All the parts are good, nothing worn out (ballstud has grease on the end, looks weird in the photo).

 In regards to the frame bracket flexing, I didn't have a problem with a Ram or CF pressure plate but you could bolt it on then weld it to the frame...it'll never move then.

Let me know what you want out of the lot, I'll give you a deal....I am years away from another manual trans build.

 



-- Edited by cobaltchev67 on Monday 23rd of April 2018 08:18:17 PM

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I have a yoke. 

So basically I’d take everything but the yokes and u joints. Don’t need the speedo gear either. And probably only need 1 clutch fork?



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- Mike -
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Sent you a PM.  Photo attached is what the complete '68-72 Z-bar linkage looks like...minus the ball going into the frame side.  Disclaimer---I have not tried the Pontiac linkage with a Chevy engine block but it is much more easily shortened or lengthened to fit than the other way around(Chevy linkage to Pontiac)



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